In this week’s episode of Pod of Inquiry, Dr. Stephen Barrett sits down with bioengineering expert Arthur Menard, who went down the EMF research rabbit hole and emerged with some disturbing findings—and practical solutions for 5G health risks and EMF protection.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode:
- The Hidden Science – 2,200+ studies link EMF to DNA damage, cancer, and calcium channel disruption, with strong research funding bias.
- Your Body Under Siege – EMF drives oxidative stress, chronic inflammation, and impacts cellular mechanisms.
- Electromagnetic Sensitivity – 4–10% of people may suffer from electromagnetic hypersensitivity symptoms.
- Protection That Works – NASA spacesuit tech and Faraday cage principles adapted into everyday protective clothing.
- Real-World Validation – Even the U.S. Air Force now employs EMF protection technology.
Arthur reveals which single product offers the most protection, how to measure EMF in your home, and why your bedroom should be your first priority for EMF mitigation.
Plus, as a Pod of Inquiry listener, you’ll get exclusive access to a 15% discount on HAVN Wear’s EMF protective clothing using code POI15.

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Guest Biography
Arthur Menard
Arthur Menard is a Forbes 30 Under 30 entrepreneur, TEDx speaker, and the founder of HAVN (havnwear.com), the world’s first EMF-blocking apparel designed for daily wear. Trusted by doctors, elite athletes, and the U.S. Air Force, HAVN’s patented WaveStopper™ fabric blocks 99.7% of radiation from everyday tech, helping reduce risks tied to fertility, hormones, and cognitive health. Since launch, HAVN has sold over 250,000 products to more than 70,000 customers worldwide. Arthur holds an MS in Biology & Engineering from AgroParisTech and an MBA from HEC Paris. His mission is to help people live longer, feel better, and thrive in a connected world.
Show Notes from this episode
00:00 – Introduction & Guest Background
- Dr. Barrett introduces Arthur Menard, founder of HAVN Wear EMF protective clothing
- Offers listeners 15% discount with code “POI15” at HAVNwear.com
- Discussion will cover EMF physiological effects and mitigation strategies
01:06 – Show Opening
01:37 – Arthur’s Background & Motivation
- Arthur Menard shares personal story: grew up with grandparents battling cancer
- Master’s degree in engineering and biology
- First job studying genomic patterns of prostate cancer
- Discovered link between EMF exposure and cancer, leading to “rabbit hole” research
04:16 – Educational Background
- Arthur studied broad engineering in France with biotechnology focus
- Double major in biology and engineering
04:49 – Industry Parallels: Tobacco vs. EMF
- Dr. Barrett draws comparison between tobacco industry suppression and potential EMF industry tactics
- Discussion of financial interests protecting EMF technology deployment
06:18 – Research Funding Bias
- Arthur discusses Guardian article: “The Inconvenient Truth Between Cell Phone Radiation and Cancer” (2017/2019)
- Wireless Technology Research Program (WTR) established in 1990s
- Dr. Carlo’s 1999 findings: doubled brain tumor risk in mobile users
- Program shut down after reporting adverse findings
- Key Statistics:
- 80% of independently funded studies found adverse health effects
- Only 20% of industry-funded studies found adverse effects
- Overall: 55% showed adverse effects, 45% showed no effects
11:22 – Regulatory Lag
- Safety standards haven’t been updated since 1990s
- Original standards based on heat exposure, not cellular communication disruption
- Exposure times dramatically increased (brick phones used weekly vs. current 6-7 hours daily)
12:27 – NIH Studies
- National Toxicology Program conducted 10-year rat study
- Found clear evidence of DNA damage from cell phone radiation
- Study used older frequencies (450 MHz) – current 5G frequencies much higher
13:27 – Exposure Escalation
- Transition from 2G/3G to 4G to 5G represents massive frequency increases
- Current environment: 34-36 WiFi signals detectable in office space
- 5G requires 10x more towers than 4G for same coverage
- 4G towers remain active alongside new 5G infrastructure
14:49 – 5G vs 4G Technical Differences
- 5G: shorter wavelength, higher frequency, more powerful but shorter range
- Self-driving cars and connected devices increase EMF exposure
- Cumulative exposure significantly higher than previous generations
16:15 – Health Impact Scale
- Dr. Barrett asks about relative impact: if 4G = 4/10, what is 5G?
- Arthur estimates 20-40/10 range for frequency increase
- Cautions that frequency doesn’t directly correlate 1:1 with health effects
- Emphasizes biological effects proven even at lower frequencies
17:12 – Research Gaps
- Limited studies comparing 4G vs 5G health effects
- Cancer studies require years due to long latency periods
- Some cities (Brussels, Belgium) have halted 5G deployment pending safety research
21:26 – Cellular Mechanisms of EMF Damage
- Primary pathway: Disruption of voltage-gated calcium channels (VGCCs)
- Ionizing vs Non-ionizing radiation misconception:
- EMF is non-ionizing (cannot directly damage DNA)
- But can cause DNA damage through cellular signaling disruption
- Process: EMF activates VGCCs → abnormal calcium influx → reactive oxygen species → DNA damage
24:11 – Calcium and Cellular Damage
- Excessive cellular calcium triggers damaging biochemical reactions
- Primarily affects mitochondria
- Produces free radicals leading to oxidative stress
- Dr. Barrett notes calcium as marker in cancer pathology
25:07 – Multiple Pathological Pathways
- Electrical communication interruption
- Reactive oxygen species (ROS) production
- Chronic inflammation
- Oxidative stress contributes to modern diseases
26:21 – Individual Susceptibility & EHS
- Electromagnetic Hypersensitivity Syndrome (EHS):
- Recognized in France and Australia, not yet in US
- Affects estimated 4-10% of population
- Symptoms: brain fog, migraines, fatigue, tinnitus
- Individual biology affects EMF response (similar to smoking effects variation)
29:39 – EHS Diagnosis Challenges
- No universal medical recognition in US
- Mostly patient-reported symptom relief when avoiding EMF
- Some placebo-controlled studies conducted
- Oxidative stress identified as key factor in EHS symptoms
31:44 – Cumulative Environmental Stressors
- Dr. Barrett emphasizes multiple modern toxins: glyphosate, atrazine, processed foods
- Poor sleep and exercise compound EMF effects
- Slow-acting poisons with delayed effects (decades)
- Metabolically healthy individuals may be more resilient
33:32 – Solution Development Motivation
- Arthur’s engineering approach to identified problem
- Cannot reduce EMF at device level without impairing function
- Only solution: prevent EMF from reaching the body
33:51 – Technology Development
- Inspired by NASA spacesuit electromagnetic shielding
- Faraday cage principle adapted to fabric
- Wave Stopper technology: proprietary silver fiber mesh
- Performance: Blocks 99.7% of EMF from 450 MHz to 40 GHz
- Covers entire spectrum of consumer electronic devices
36:34 – Product Line
- Started with underwear (genital protection)
- Expanded to: hats (brain), t-shirts (heart/organs), neck gaiters (thyroid)
- Pajamas, hoodies, blankets, laptop pads
- Home products and accessories
37:14 – Faraday Cage Explanation
- Arthur explains electromagnetic shielding principles:
- Conductive material deflects and dissipates electromagnetic radiation
- Grid holes must be smaller than radiation wavelength
- Requires sufficient coverage area for effectiveness
- Dr. Barrett provides steel sphere analogy from high school physics
40:00 – EMF Measurement Effects
- Higher EMF readings on fabric exterior due to reflection
- Mixed absorption and dissipation mechanism
- Silver fibers convert EMF energy to heat
- Reflected waves are weaker due to partial absorption
42:04 – US Air Force Contract
- STTR contract for protecting military personnel
- Pilots experience high EMF exposure in aircraft
- Medical professionals also at high risk (ICU, surgery rooms with wireless devices)
43:26 – Historical Context
- Hospitals previously required phone shutdown to prevent device interference
- Airlines changed frequencies to avoid communication interference
- Arthur emphasizes following safety procedures regardless
44:02 – Product Durability & Care
- Machine washable (preferably cold water)
- Hang dry recommended, low heat if using dryer
- More delicate than cotton but longer-lasting construction
- Efficacy lifespan: 3-5 years depending on use and washing frequency
46:00 – Product Recommendations
- Priority based on use case:
- Cell phone in pocket → underwear (closest proximity = highest exposure)
- Versatility → blanket (office, home, family use)
- EMF meters now offered for measurement and education
- Importance of measuring EMF levels before protection
48:48 – EMF Measurement Importance
- Dr. Barrett emphasizes patient education through metrics
- Seeing measurable data increases compliance
- Bedroom priority (8 hours daily exposure)
- Testing protocol: Place meter inside clothing, not phone inside with meter outside
50:59 – Company Information
- Website: HAVNwear.com (H-A-V-N-W-E-A-R)
- Discount code: POI15 for 15% off
- Science page with white paper available
- Over 1,000 physicians recommending products
52:13 – Closing Remarks
- Arthur thanks for platform and urges sharing episode
- Warns about bad actors and fake products in EMF protection space
- Emphasizes education for informed decision-making
- Dr. Barrett recommends EMF meter as first step (like mold testing analogy)
55:12 – Standard Closing
- Show notes at podofuinquiry.com
- Request for reviews and sharing
- Medical disclaimer and guest disclosure statements
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