Are you still stuck in the ICE AGE? Maybe it’s time to look into the RICE (rest, ice, compression, and elevation) paradigm – and shift it. My interview this week with Gary Reinl, author of the book: “ICED! The Illusionary Treatment Option”. This is a fascinating conversation as it speaks to this questionable protocol that is ubiquitously adopted by everyone from surgeons to soccer moms. Check it out, and if it bruises your psyche you can always put a little ice on it – NOT!
Show Notes
02:18 How Gary got to this very interesting position in sports medicine
03:17 His early history and journey in athletics
He opened the seventh nautilus gym in the world 1973.
03:43 Gary talks about his love of running
05:22 The RICE (Rest, Ice, Compression, and Elevation) Paradigm
Dr. Gabe Mirkin’s original book
06:19 Cold and its Negative Effects
08:21 Do You Want to Compress the Tissue?
10:04 How do You Tell Everyone that They are Wrong?
11:02 The Icing Inflection Point
12:23 Ice for Pain Control
13:05 The Ripped Off Arm that Started it All
17:40 Soccer Moms and the Sacrament of RICE
19:17 RICE is wrong, and has been for 40 Years? What does the literature say?
20:37 Repair and Remodeling Phases
21:08 Ice Contributes to Further Tissue Injury
22:07
Over a million people have heard my anti race message. In fact, this past year in Philadelphia, at the National Athletic Trainers Association meeting in Philly, and Philadelphia,
22:19 Dr. Tom Kaminski from the University of Delaware
24:21 Gary’s Work with Professional Sports Teams
24:50 What is RICE doing for the Post-operative Phase for the Patient?
25:59 Active Muscle Recovery
29:28 Tissue Physiology
30:00 Muscle and Myostatin
36:10 His Conversation with an NHL Trainer
37:17 Recovery Techniques
38:14 Is Swelling a Good or Bad Thing?
42:36 Muscle Activation and Swelling
47:35 Making Noise
48:40
And they both looked at me like why? I said, Well, you just said that’s not working, stop doing that.
48:47
It’s gonna be pretty simple. Don’t do that. That doesn’t work. Right. And then I hooked them up with our electric stimulation device and gotten properly position. And he felt really good and said I kind of liked this. Well, as it turns out. Later, that player lasted an additional four or five years in Major League Baseball. And that spread through the league, to his roommate, to the roommates, the friend on the team, to another team. And now all 30 Major League Baseball teams use my technology. And I believe at this point, it would be very reasonable for me to say that half the teams don’t start pitchers anymore.
49:31 Clayton Kershaw
50:48 Dr. Gabe Mirkin and his Change of Heart Regarding the RICE protocol
52:53
And I like your at the end of the book, you said, we need to change the rice acronym to the Rita acronym. Tell tell the folks what are Rita stands for? Because I think it’s I think it’s great to think about these things. You know, if we can shift the acronym, sometimes we can shift the perception. Well, I’ll tell you how that happened. I was talking on the phone with a reporter from the Toronto Star. And again, the article was on my website, so you can actually see it. I was on the front page of the Toronto Star.
53:27 RITA (Recovery is THE ANSWER)
1:01:51
Don’t Don’t misunderstand me when I say that it’s decongested that you’ve begun the rebuilding the related vascular network, that’s not healed.
1:02:03 NHL, NBA, MLB, NFL
1:07:36 How to Contact Gary
1:14:13 Gary Reinl’s Rebuttal