What if Alzheimer’s disease could be detected 20 years before symptoms appear — and potentially slowed or reversed? 🧠

In this episode, I speak with Dave Jenkins, a practitioner using the Bredesen Protocol, who joins the show from his cognitive wellness retreat in Bali.

We explore new research and emerging therapies that could reshape how we understand Alzheimer’s Disease, early detection, and brain health. (The Science of Reversing Alzheimer’s)

In This Episode, You’ll Discover:

  • The latest research on the Bredesen Protocol and how it compares with amyloid-targeting drugs like Lecanemab
  • pTau217 — a blood biomarker that may detect Alzheimer’s decades before symptoms appear
  • The science behind the Klotho protein and its potential role in brain health and longevity
  • Why prevention and metabolic health may be key factors in cognitive decline
  • The future of research into neurodegenerative diseases like Parkinson’s Disease and Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis

Alzheimer’s may begin decades before memory loss appears, but advances in biomarkers, lifestyle interventions, and emerging therapies could open new possibilities for prevention and cognitive restoration.

If you’re interested in brain health, longevity science, dementia prevention, and cutting-edge medical research, this conversation is packed with insights

The Science of Reversing Alzheimer’s Dr. Dave Jenkins

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Author Biography

DR. DAVE JENKINS

Dr. Dave Jenkins

Dr. Dave Jenkins is a Physician from New Zealand. He trained with the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine and The Buck Institute for Aging Research. His work helps individuals achieve peak health through personalized cutting-edge science and practical solutions through his roles as a doctor, health coach, and educator.
He co-authored one of the most significant breakthroughs in neurodegenerative medicine: the documented reversal of Alzheimer’s symptoms in 100 patients using personalized, multi-modal protocols. This achievement—published in the peer-reviewed Journal of Alzheimer’s Disease & Parkinsonism—defies conventional belief that cognitive decline is irreversible, and places them among the elite global leaders in longevity and optimal health.

Show Notes from this episode

00:00 – Introduction

  • Dr. Barrett introduces Dr. Dave Jenkins, a New Zealand-trained GP turned functional medicine physician, specializing in Alzheimer’s reversal and cognitive optimization
  • Dr. Jenkins runs a wellness retreat in Bali tailored to patients with cognitive impairment, working in collaboration with Dr. Dale Bredesen

01:18 – Dr. Jenkins’ Background

  • Born and trained in New Zealand; started as a family physician
  • Frustrated with symptom-based medicine, transitioned to functional medicine via the American Academy of Anti-Aging Medicine
  • While surfing in Indonesia, discovered extreme child mortality in remote villages; founded humanitarian charity Surf Aid, which has helped ~200,000 people over 25 years
  • When siblings reported their mother developing Alzheimer’s, Jenkins contacted Dr. Dale Bredesen and became one of the first practitioners trained by Bredesen (~15 years ago)

04:00 – Alzheimer’s Reversal: The Bredesen Protocol

  • Co-published with Bredesen: 100 documented cases of Alzheimer’s reversal (searchable: “100 patients Alzheimer’s reversal”)
  • Bredesen’s approach: multimodal precision medicine targeting underlying drivers — metal toxicity, insulin resistance, high homocysteine, inflammation (“holes in the roof”)
  • New placebo-controlled trial just published (weeks old at time of recording); Bredesen protocol shown to be 6x more effective than lecanemab (the amyloid antibody drug)
  • Lecanemab carries serious side effects: brain bleeding, brain edema, death — at enormous cost
  • Despite compelling evidence, mainstream neurology remains resistant due to entrenched paradigms and pharmaceutical industry influence

06:59 – Paradigm Resistance in Medicine

  • Dr. Barrett recounts colleagues dismissing the concept of “Alzheimer’s reversal” in 2015 — now far less controversial
  • Billions spent on drugs that do nothing or worsen outcomes
  • Discussion of medicine’s slow adoption curve: 15–20 years from solid evidence to clinical practice

09:56 – pTau 217: The Game-Changing Biomarker

  • pTau 217 is a fragment of the tau tangle — measurable in blood via a simple test (~$600–$1,000)
  • Can detect Alzheimer’s disease process 20 years before symptoms appear
  • Functions as a therapeutic monitoring tool — tracks response to interventions including gene therapy, peptides, and hyperbaric oxygen
  • Dr. Jenkins plans to use it as a key metric in the upcoming “Bredesen Plus” protocols
  • Connection to APOE genetics: APOE ε4 (one copy) = ~25% Alzheimer’s risk; two copies ≈ 90% risk — early testing critical for those with family history

13:32 – Know Your Risk: The Case for Testing

  • Many patients say, “I don’t want to know” — but Bredesen’s reversal data changes the entire calculus
  • “The train left the station 20 years before your symptoms” — early detection = early intervention
  • Dr. Jenkins recounts a neighbor with mild cognitive impairment who refused to engage — “there is no disease where you will be more burdensome” to family

19:04 – Motivating the Unmotivated

  • Discussion of the psychological challenge of getting intelligent, affluent patients to change behavior
  • Framing health decisions through a financial/investment lens: “I would never make investment decisions like I’m making with my health”
  • Arterial plaque parallels: 50% of people first learn they have heart disease when they have a fatal MI
  • Pomegranate juice, oxidized LDL, ultrasound plaque measurement discussed briefly

21:20 – Clotho Gene Therapy: The Longevity Molecule

  • Clotho is a natural protein/signaling molecule found in all mammals; discovered by Japanese scientist
  • People with higher Clotho levels:
    • Live longer
    • Have larger brains
    • Demonstrate an 8-point IQ advantage
    • Show ~50% reduction in inflammatory markers
    • Have reduced risk of cancer, kidney disease, and diabetes
  • Clotho declines with age — like hormones
  • 4,000+ published studies on Clotho
  • Animal studies: mice lived 30% longer; aged primates showed major cognitive improvements

24:00 – How Clotho Gene Therapy Works

  • Preferred delivery method: plasmid gene therapy via electroporation — pure plasmid injected into deltoid, driven into cell nucleus via mild electrical current
  • Does NOT alter DNA; sets up a “small factory” producing Clotho continuously
  • Because it’s a natural molecule, the body utilizes it normally
  • One human study in 5 demented patients (intranasal delivery) — dramatic cognitive improvements in all subjects
  • Brazilian trial: 300+ patients, zero major adverse events reported
  • Dr. Jenkins’ personal results: CNS Vital Signs composite memory score went from 66 → 97 in two months
  • Clotho levels measured in blood: baseline ~300; therapeutic target ~1,000 (equivalent to a 20-year-old)

28:00 – Monitoring & Dosing

  • pTau 217 used alongside Clotho level testing to track progress
  • Boosters planned based on Clotho blood level thresholds
  • Lifestyle factors also raise Clotho naturally: exercise is one of the most potent stimulants
  • AAV viral vector delivery exists but requires immunosuppression (steroids); only available in Mexico at ~$140,000
  • Plasmid version: ~$20,000 depending on package; FDA trials beginning for Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and ALS

31:27 – Exercise, Depression & Psilocybin

  • Exercise outperforms antidepressants; may work partly through Clotho elevation
  • Heat therapy (sauna) effective for depression
  • Recent 3-year follow-up on a single psilocybin therapeutic session: majority of patients still depression-free
  • Ibogaine discussed: passed as “Ibogaine Act” in Texas for PTSD with strong long-lasting efficacy

33:30 – The Bali Wellness Retreat: “Bredesen Plus”

  • Full-immersion functional medicine retreat in Bali designed for cognitively impaired patients
  • Addresses patients who struggle with compliance or have moderate Alzheimer’s
  • On-site capabilities:
    • VO₂ max and visceral fat testing
    • Red light therapy, PEMF, hyperbaric oxygen (hyperoxia/hypoxia protocol)
    • IV cerebral peptides (Cerebrolysin — approved in 70 countries, unavailable in the US)
    • Stem cells, IV choline, peptide nasal sprays
    • Ketogenic/ketotarian nutrition program with ketone salts and esters
    • Saunas, cold plunge, and behavioral coaching
  • Goal: build habits, establish belief, and create a daily routine that becomes a lifestyle
  • Dr. Dale Bredesen serves as monthly consulting advisor for retreat cases

34:32 – Sponsor: Nature’s Marvels Bioregulatory Peptides

  • Dr. Barrett has taken daily for 3+ years — “integral part of my wellness journey”
  • Designed to optimize and restore the body’s natural processes
  • Described as “the real deal for human optimization and longevity”

38:08 – Lifestyle as the Foundation

  • Alzheimer’s requires a whole-team strategy: sleep, exercise, nutrition, stress management
  • Behavior science concept of “activation energy” — it takes energy to change a habit
  • Retreat provides dedicated Balinese staff known for warmth and professionalism
  • Methylation adaptation lifestyle (per Dr. Kara Fitzgerald): reduces biological aging by 3.2 years in 8 weeks — study highlighted as must-see

41:01 – Root Causes: The “Poisoned” Food Supply

  • Dr. Barrett on Ancel Keys and the demonization of saturated fat — fraudulent research funded by the sugar industry
  • Seed oils, environmental toxins, and ultra-processed food as systemic threats
  • “Health genocide” of Western societies driven by profit capture
  • Dr. Jenkins references “The Corporation” (Canadian documentary) on institutional greed

44:02 – Protecting Yourself From Toxins

  • Sulforaphane protective against benzene and other environmental toxins
  • Cells have 30–40% reserve capacity — able to rejuvenate when properly supported (per Russian researcher Prof. Khavinson)
  • Sauna (4–5x/week) dramatically reduces toxin burden
  • “When you are healthy, you have 1,000 dreams. When you are unhealthy, you have one.”

46:42 – Clotho FDA Trials: Status Update

  • Clotho Neuroscience company pursuing FDA trials for Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, and ALS
  • Approval announced; trial design not yet publicly detailed; enrollment phase TBD
  • Early results anticipated within 12–16 months
  • First Parkinson’s patient referred by Dr. Jenkins: rapid-onset tremor following third COVID-19 vaccine; now enrolled in Clotho trial

49:03 – How to Connect with Dr. Dave Jenkins

  • Website: youngerbyscience.com
  • Free 15-minute introductory consultation available (while capacity allows)
  • Documented scientific research on Clotho, hyperbaric oxygen, and lifestyle protocols
  • Dr. Jenkins screens prospective patients and occasionally refers those who are not yet ready for behavioral change

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